<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I can't believe anyone would in any way criticize anyone for making a choice of safety over play. Some may be more daring than others, but hells bells - lightning? Heavy downpour? Let's get real and remember why we're playing this game in the first place.</div><div><br></div><div>That being said we should agree on some policy when things like this come up. Gary's suggestion of 5 holes played counting for score seems reasonable to me and I suggest we adopt that. For those foursomes that didn't finish 5 holes, my suggestion is that they conclude the match before the end of the flight or agree to a split out of the 3 points based on holes played w/ no impact on quotas.</div><div><br></div><div>Alex</div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:12 PM, "Gary Knowlton" <<a href="mailto:garykn@comcast.net">garykn@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">I play in the Overlook league, and sub in this league.<div>For Overlook, we have a policy that if 5 holes are played, then it counts </div><div>as a completed match. If more holes than 5 but less than 9 are </div><div>completed, all completed holes count. There should be some discretion</div><div>and agreement among the foursome if it is just rain and not lightening. </div><div><br></div><div>gary </div><div><br><div><span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Dave Christiansen" <<a href="mailto:dave@hayesne.com">dave@hayesne.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Bob Born" <<a href="mailto:rmbemail@yahoo.com">rmbemail@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"North End Golf League" <<a href="mailto:golf-list@neaclub.org">golf-list@neaclub.org</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:44:56 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NEAC GolfLeague] Controversy<br><br><div dir="ltr">No one should have to get zeros... The only way I see getting zeros is if you loose straight up or turn in an incomplete scorecard. No points should be awarded for incomplete scorecards. I'm sure that if you asked one of the starters to get out and complete a couple of holes that could not be completed due to lightening and rain during one of our Monday league play they would accommodate you. If you don't care enough about then take the zeros.<div>
<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Bob Born <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rmbemail@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rmbemail@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">Like Ananth, I'm willing to take zeros if that's in the best interest of the league. I'll compete, I'll try to improve, I'll joke about quotas, but I'll have fun. <br>
<br>This league has run for years. Sometimes with better decisions than others, sometimes with mistakes I've made, sometimes with mistakes by others, but always with the intention to do what's in the best interest of the league. We've grown it to a point where we have 28 men playing the glorious game of golf - socially. Men - it's for fun. We won't always agree, but we need to respect one another. I'm truly embarrassed for how we've treated one another.<br>
<br><div> </div><div>==========<br><br>Bob Born<br><br><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:14pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Ananth Kaitharam <<a href="mailto:akaitharam@yahoo.com" target="_blank">akaitharam@yahoo.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Steve Dickson <<a href="mailto:steved@DicksonNet.net">steved@DicksonNet.net</a>>; North End Golf League <<a href="mailto:golf-list@neaclub.org" target="_blank">golf-list@neaclub.org</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:52 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NEAC GolfLeague] Controversy<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
Thanks Steve. Let me say at the outset that I was one of those who walked off on both days. In fairness to the others in my group, let me also say that on both days I was the one who made the
suggestion that we withdraw. So if anyone wants to call me an asshole for that, they're welcome to. I'm also quite willing to leave the league if that makes the heroic types feel better <grin>! Lastly, I have no problems with being given zero points for leaving the course, regardless of where I was in the match. As you said, I treat this as a friendly outing, not in the expectation of winning anything.<br>
<br>Way to go Dave C ... nice round and congratulations on taking flight 1.<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Ananth<br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Steve Dickson <<a href="mailto:steved@DicksonNet.net">steved@DicksonNet.net</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> North End Golf
League <<a href="mailto:golf-list@neaclub.org" target="_blank">golf-list@neaclub.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:39 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [NEAC GolfLeague] Controversy<br>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
Unfortunately there was a bit of controversy last night about<br>
how to deal with people walking off the course due to <br>
inclement weather. <br>
<br>
It seems at least three groups, including the teams in the running,
<br>
walked off the course due to lighting. Rightly so! I guess this <br>
is the second week in a row that teams walked off the course <br>
due to rain.... Again rightly so!!! <br>
<br>
I was inclined to redo yesterday's matches since it did not seem<br>
fair to teams in the running to not complete their matches,<br>
due to justifiable reasons. But, it turns out a member of the first<br>
place team, Dave <font size="+1">Christiansen<font size="+1"> sho<font size="+1">t a +8<font size="+1"> (39) to win the <br>
<font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1">first</font>
flight<font size="+1"><font size="+1">, </font>playing
thr<font size="+1">ough</font> the li<font size="+1">ght<font size="+1">ing<font size="+1">. So, it would not be<br>
<font size="+1">fair to Dave to throw away <font size="+1">such a good round.<br>
</font></font></font><br>
<font size="+1">S<font size="+1">ince this</font><font size="+1"> </font></font><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1"><font size="+1">inclement weather has
happened t<font size="+1">wo<font size="+1"><font size="+1"> </font>weeks in a <br>
r<font size="+1">ow<font size="+1"> and I
wan<font size="+1">t to <font size="+1">si<font size="+1">lence</font> this
controversy.<font size="+1">I
suggest we do <br>
the followin<font size="+1">g<font size="+1">:<br>
<font size="+1"><br>
<font size="+1">1) If you
complete<font size="+1">d</font>
<font size="+1">yesterday's
<font size="+1">round,
the <font size="+1">quota<font size="+1">s</font>
<font size="+1">apply<br>
<font size="+1">
as normal.<br>
</font><br>
</font></font>2)
I <font size="+1">you did not complete ye<font size="+1">s<font size="+1">ter<font size="+1">day's
round, your q<font size="+1">uota<font size="+1">s</font><br>
<font size="+1"> stay the same.</font></font></font><br>
<br>
I don't think the standing will change that much one way or another,<br>
but Bob will verify that. The bottom line is flight 1 will end and <br>
we will move on to flight 2... <br>
<br>
To avoid future controversy, If the majority of the teams finish
the <br>
round stands. <br>
<br>
I am very hopeful two thing will not happen again... One, using <br>
vulgar language, such as asshole, in the clubhouse and two the <br>
harassing emails, private and public, about people's quotas <br>
and them not showing up. This is friendly a league so lets <br>
keep it that way!<br>
<br>
steved.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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