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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/25/2013 04:11 PM, Gary Knowlton
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      <div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">I
        play in the Overlook league, and sub in this league.
        <div>For Overlook, we have a policy that if 5 holes are played,
          then it counts </div>
        <div>as a completed match. If more holes than 5 but less than 9
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        <div>completed, all completed holes count. There should be some
          discretion</div>
        <div>and agreement among the foursome if it is just rain and not
          lightening. <br>
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    Thanks Gary for the input... I 'm not sure how we would work the
    quotas <br>
    or team points...  but its definitely something to think about....<br>
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    steved.<br>
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        <div>gary </div>
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          <hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Dave Christiansen"
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          <b>To: </b>"Bob Born" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rmbemail@yahoo.com"><rmbemail@yahoo.com></a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"North End Golf League"
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          <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:44:56 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [NEAC GolfLeague] Controversy<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">No one should have to get zeros... The only way
            I see getting zeros is if you loose straight up or turn in
            an incomplete scorecard.  No points should be awarded for
            incomplete scorecards.  I'm sure that if you asked one of
            the starters to get out and complete a couple of holes that
            could not be completed due to lightening and rain during one
            of our Monday league play they would accommodate you.  If
            you don't care enough about then take the zeros.
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:16 AM,
              Bob Born <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    roman,new york,times,serif">Like Ananth, I'm willing
                    to take zeros if that's in the best interest of the
                    league.  I'll compete, I'll try to improve, I'll
                    joke about quotas, but I'll have fun. <br>
                    <br>
                    This league has run for years.  Sometimes with
                    better decisions than others, sometimes with
                    mistakes I've made, sometimes with mistakes by
                    others, but always with the intention to do what's
                    in the best interest of the league.  We've grown it
                    to a point where we have 28 men playing the glorious
                    game of golf - socially.  Men - it's for fun.  We
                    won't always agree, but we need to respect one
                    another.  I'm truly embarrassed for how we've
                    treated one another.<br>
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                    <div>==========<br>
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                      Bob Born<br>
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                                style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                            Ananth Kaitharam <<a
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                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                            Steve Dickson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:steved@DicksonNet.net"><steved@DicksonNet.net></a>;
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                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                            Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:52 AM<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                            Re: [NEAC GolfLeague] Controversy<br>
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                                Thanks Steve. Let me say at the outset
                                that I was one of those who walked off
                                on both days. In fairness to the others
                                in my group, let me also say that on
                                both days I was the one who made the
                                suggestion that we withdraw. So if
                                anyone wants to call me an asshole for
                                that, they're welcome to. I'm also quite
                                willing to leave the league if that
                                makes the heroic types feel better
                                <grin>! Lastly, I have no problems
                                with being given zero points for leaving
                                the course, regardless of where I was in
                                the match. As you said, I treat this as
                                a friendly outing, not in the
                                expectation of winning anything.<br>
                                <br>
                                Way to go Dave C ... nice round and
                                congratulations on taking flight 1.<br>
                                <br>
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                                Regards,<br>
                                <br>
                                Ananth<br>
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                                        <b><span
                                            style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                                        Steve Dickson
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                                        <b><span
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                                        North End Golf League <<a
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                                        <b><span
                                            style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                        Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:39 AM<br>
                                        <b><span
                                            style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                        [NEAC GolfLeague] Controversy<br>
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                                        <div> Hello,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Unfortunately there was a bit
                                          of  controversy last night
                                          about<br>
                                          how to deal with people
                                          walking off the course due to
                                          <br>
                                          inclement weather. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          It seems at least three
                                          groups, including the teams in
                                          the running, <br>
                                          walked off the course due to
                                          lighting. Rightly so! I guess
                                          this <br>
                                          is the second week in a row
                                          that teams walked off the
                                          course <br>
                                          due to rain.... Again rightly
                                          so!!! <br>
                                          <br>
                                          I was inclined to redo
                                          yesterday's matches since it
                                          did not seem<br>
                                          fair to teams in the running
                                          to not complete their matches,<br>
                                          due to justifiable reasons.
                                          But, it turns out a member of
                                          the first<br>
                                          place team, Dave <font
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                                                          So, it would
                                                          not be<br>
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                                                          to Dave to
                                                          throw away <font
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                                                          a good round.<br>
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                                                          in a <br>
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                                                          stay the same.</font></font></font><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I don't think
                                                          the standing
                                                          will change
                                                          that much one
                                                          way or
                                                          another,<br>
                                                          but Bob will
                                                          verify that.
                                                          The bottom
                                                          line is flight
                                                          1 will end and
                                                          <br>
                                                          we will move
                                                          on to flight
                                                          2... <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          To avoid
                                                          future 
                                                          controversy,
                                                          If the
                                                          majority of
                                                          the teams
                                                          finish the <br>
                                                          round stands.
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I am very
                                                          hopeful two
                                                          thing will not
                                                          happen
                                                          again... One,
                                                          using <br>
                                                          vulgar
                                                          language, such
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                                                          in the
                                                          clubhouse and
                                                          two the <br>
                                                          harassing
                                                          emails,
                                                          private and
                                                          public, about
                                                          people's
                                                          quotas <br>
                                                          and them not
                                                          showing up.
                                                          This is
                                                          friendly a
                                                          league so lets
                                                          <br>
                                                          keep it that
                                                          way!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          steved.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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